1335 days ago
In yesterday’s bearcast I explained why suggestions that Reach4Entertainment (R4E) CEO Marc Boyan was considering merging Reach with his private company Miroma should be investigated by the authorities. Upon reflection the scandal is potentially even larger than I thought. Notwithstanding the fact that two guests at my wedding (Messrs Wray & Yeoman) of which I shall be celebrating the 7th anniversary this coming weekend, are intimately involved with Reach and will be very pissed off with what I am doing, I have now written to the Oxymorons and the Chocolate Teapots and asked them to consider involving the Takeover Panel. The letter follows.
1335 days ago
Yes it is corrupt to claim that with 60 articles a year you are chasing Neil Woodford when you were for two decades his greatest cheerleader on Fleet Street. Jess Press-trip ignored ALL the warnings and kept on urging Mail on Sunday readers to average down on Woodford funds. He should hold his head in shame. He demands transparency over Woodford, I demand transparency from him so have 4 questions the loathsome reptile will not answer. I also look at bent PR led journalism at the Sunday Times ref BT (BT.) Then it is onto Reach4Entertainment (R4E) where the FCA and AIM Regulation should be all over the company, its CEO Marc Boyan and chairman Lord Grade.
1338 days ago
With its hand forced by media reports, Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has been forced to admit that it could be set for a material cash windfall, but this comes only after the CEO of the soon to de-list AIM company, Marc Boyan, has engaged in massive share buying. It gets worse.
1342 days ago
I start by explaining what an awful day I have had and why. Can’t I just sit in the pool at the Greek Hovel with Joshua and relax? Then it is onto two companies run by Tory Grandees: Verditek (VDTK) and Westminster (WSG). Then a third bunch of scumbags, Novum Securities. Finally a warning about Reach4Entertainment (R4E). That is it from me… now the pool and the start of a weekend celebrating the assumption of the Virgin Mary.
1347 days ago
The note I refer to is from Align on Bluebird Merchant Ventures (BMV). I agree the shares are cheap. I own some! But are they as cheap as the note suggests? Nope. It is bonkers. I discuss its author and other peak cycle bonkers notes etched in my brain. I look at R4E (R4E) and why you should not follow Fraud. Then at the accounts from troubled broker Novum which came out yesterday. They are truly shocking and get a full debagging from me. I comment on Hammerson (HMSO) and illusory asset values and on Simec Atlantic (SAE) and – en passant – Hurricane Energy (HUR).
1347 days ago
I do not wish to fall out with Nigel Wray and I do not really blame him for the Reach4Entertainment (R4E) news today but I explain my anger. Then I explain my sympathy for Graham Neary. Next up, results from Centamin (CEY) are great for we loyal shareholders but I ask what is the appropriate yield? Then onto Xtract Resources (XTR) and a phone call from Colin Bird. Treat the “Ford dip” as an opportunity!
1347 days ago
On June 29 this year, just over a month ago, the management of Reach4Entertainment (R4E) told us that despite the lockdown of the London and New York theatres it serviced, it was sitting, as a result of prudent cash management, on net funds of £12 million – almost thrice the market cap. Today, 5 weeks later, we are told the company is leaving AIM and worse is to come. Shareholders, you are being screwed by management and big shareholders such as fund manager Katie Potts and Nigel Wray.
1365 days ago
I have been waiting for this day for a long while. I hope that comrade Graham Neary has a glass (or seven) of Black Velvet over in Ireland tonight. I shall have an ouzo as I enjoy some karma heading to the - journalist-smearing – fascist PR bastards at Citigate. I should warn you that this podcast contains some bad language as I consider the AIM demise of Fastjet (FJET). I laugh at a rumour about Ascent Resources (AST) and the whore blogger Malcolm Graham Wood and I consider the laughable plans of the pathetic nanny state regime of Bojo to tackle obesity. I also look at Cineworld (CINE), R4E (R4E) and Supply@ME Capital (SYME), three firms I fear are in the merde. And did I mention that Citigate Dewe Rogerson are a bunch of journalist-smearing motherfuckers whose comprehensive lack of ethics I shall toast with ouzo tonight?
1370 days ago
I am snowed under with work for MineProphets tomorrow and I have now bought a second new stock on the basis of videos I have taped. I shall reveal both stocks tomorrow at the show and you can grab your ticket for just £2.99 (worth it for these tips alone) HERE. Elsewhere in the show I discuss Asiamet (ARS), Boohoo (BOO), R4E (R4E) and wicked old, not so ethical Malcolm Stacey and HSBC (HSBA) and Standard Chartered (STAN) as well as the British banks.
1386 days ago
Live performance and entertainment marketing group Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has announced results for the 2019 calendar year, including “confidence in the group’s ability to withstand the current situation and… anticipates that when live venues finally reopen – at whatever capacity – the requirement to market shows should ensure that r4e quickly returns to previous levels of trading”…
1438 days ago
Entertainment marketing company Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has updated on its response to the COVID-19 outbreak…
1467 days ago
It looks like the cash that I did not realise until a few months ago I had, will finally arrive in my SIPP this week. so where will I invest it? I discuss my outlook for equities in general, what I shall avoid and then Optibiotix (OPTI). R4E (R4E), Imperial Brands (IMB), Centamin (CEY), Tesco (TSCO), BP (BP.), Shell (RDSB), Wishbone Gold (WSBN) Red Rock (RRR) and Fox Marble (FOX).
1472 days ago
First an appeal on behalf of Darren, please can you assist him. Then I look at R4E (R4E), a Covid zero or a multibagger. Then compare the management at Restaurant Group (RTN) and then at Cineworld (CINE) where the greedy bastards are doing exactly what Liverpool FC did before there was a public outcry. Then a note on Bidstack (BIDS) and a look at 88 Energy (88E)
1492 days ago
I start with a few thoughts on how folks here in our village are showing their good side and how some businesses in doing so and adapting are showing the way forward for capitalism. Then I look at the Boeing, British Airways and Easyjet (EZJ) bailout conundrums facing our leaders. Easyjet has just scored a big own goal on that front and almost deserves to perish, hence the share price move today. I look at Crest Nicholson (CRST) and also at R4E (R4E) which is either a five bagger or bust.
1517 days ago
Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has updated we loyal shareholders with an opening ‘Highlight’; “Group expects to report full year adjusted EBITDA and revenue significantly ahead of market expectations”
1658 days ago
Live entertainment-focused Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has announced results for the first half of 2019 and that “we look forward to the rest of the year with confidence”…
1774 days ago
A most recent “Corporate Update re. Dewynters Germany” announcement from Reach4Entertainment (R4E) is actually that “Dewynters Germany will close”…
1807 days ago
Entertainment marketing and communications group, Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has announced results for 2018 and that “positive progress has continued into 2019 and the board is confident of delivering expectations”…
1807 days ago
Okay we own a stack of Reach4Entertainment (R4E) shares so I am biased. Dowgate is house broker so it is too. But the thesis is solid and if anything I regard the target price as far too low. So with all those caveats, here is the broker’s note.
1816 days ago
Reach4Entertainment (R4E) “is pleased to announce … renewed… media buying agreements with… Miroma… In addition, the media buying agreements have been extended to Agency Press Limited (trading as ‘Sold Out’) and Wake the Bear Limited, in order to drive additional value to the respective agencies and their client bases”…
1839 days ago
In this podcast I look at the growing mini bond scandal as I flag up another ponzi waiting to collapse today HERE. Then I do a review of my own bull portfolio: Optibiotix (OPTI), Yourgene (YGEN), Concepta (CPT), Big Sofa (BST), Wishbone (WSBN), Kefi (KEFI), Reach4Entertainment (R4E), Falanx (FLX), Fox Marble (FOX), Berekely Energia (BKY) and Argo Blockchain (ARB). I did not mention Fox in the podcast so I'll do a seperate update later. Finally: why have you not joined the roll call of heros HERE? I say a few extra fucktards on that count.
1881 days ago
Tom Winnifrith writes: It looks as if Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has made a great acquisition and as a long suffering shareholder I suppose I should be happy and say that we can all look forward to sunlit uplands. And maybe we can but I think I must be honest with you and come clean.
1883 days ago
I cover the matter in the tiitle at the end of this podcast and also remind you that tomorrow is my first long training walk for the 33 mile Woodlarks trek in the summer where we now have EIGHT rogue bloggers signed up and where I ask each bearcast listener to think of me tomorrow and donate a tenner HERE. In the podcast I discuss my unhappiness over City behaviour at Reach4Entertainment (R4E), Yourgene (YGEN) and ref Chris Oil. I stress that I own shares in Yourgene and Reach and both are cheap notwithstanding my unhappiness. I look at Haydale (HAYD), Flybe (FLYB) and Chesterfield (CHF)
1883 days ago
Until recently analyst Paul Richards was at Numis and was the City's Now 1 rated media analyst. Now he is at Dowgate and has just published a detailed note on Reach4Entertainment (R4E) after its placing and acquisition today. He reckons the shares should almost double from 1.29p to 2.4p. I own the shares and think his forecasts are light and thus so is the target price. Judge for yourself, the note is in full below.
1902 days ago
Reiterating a buy stance on Reach4Entertainment (R4E) just the other day after the Gary Neville acqusition we also noted it is disappointing that there’s been no full-year (2018) trading statement. Now there is a “Year-end trading update” – and it’s very positive news…
1913 days ago
The regvular bearcast will appear later. In this podcast I cover Optibiotix (OPTI), Yourgene (YGEN), Wishbone (WSBN), Falanx (FLX), Concepta (CPT), Big Sofa (BST), Red Rock Resources (RRR), Reach4Entertainment (R4E), Obtala (OBT), Ariana (AAU), Wandisco (WAND), Fox Marble (FOX), Argo Blockchain (aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh) and Kefi (KEFI)
2031 days ago
Live entertainment marketing group Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has announced results for the first half of 2018 and that “we expect to continue to build upon the improvements made, through the remainder of 2018 and beyond”…
2056 days ago
On appointment last October, we explained why we considered the new CEO of Reach4Entertainment (R4E), Marc Boyan, an impressive chap and on results in May significant potential in the expertise here being “employed to service a broader set of customers beyond our existing base”. There’s now an “r4e launches live entertainment PR agency” announcement…
2158 days ago
Theatre productions and events marketing company Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has announced results from a “challenging” 2017, which also saw “significant change for the company particularly through the appointment of a new management team in Q4 of 2017 under CEO Marc Boyan”…
2159 days ago
Yes, this is the place where many AIM CEOs are not fit to run the public toilets. What better place to record? Excuse the background noise. Yes I am back in Greece - I kept that a secret - and have today door-stepped Folli Follie at its lavish HQ camera in hand. It was an experience. Thank god I had a burly Albanian in a car with a motor running parked down the road. In this podcast I discuss Andalas (ADL) which is still not coming clean and is a prize dog, Roger Lawson with whom I have a good chat last night and who does not trivialise hate mail and R4E (R4E) whose results statement is er.. a mixed bag for we loyal shareholders. PS If you appreciate my bravery and dedication GO SPONSOR ME FOR £10 NOW HERE
2184 days ago
At UK Investor Show there were six Dragon's Den sessions. As a result of each £3,000 of my real money was invested after each dragon picked one of the 5 companies doing an elevator pitch. In session one the Dragons were me ( Tom Winnifrith), Nigel Wray and Steve Moore. The companies pitching were: Botswana Diamonds, Gallileo Resources, Bluebird Merchant Ventures, Ariana Resources and R4E.
2251 days ago
When Gate Ventures and Johnny Hon first told Reach4Entertainment (R4E) and its useless, money grabbing, good for nothing, gutter dwelling Nomad and broker Allenby that it wanted to sell its 23% of the company the shares were well over 2p. With the stock placed they are now 1.55p-1.6p. Well done Allenby you useless clots. Enjoy spending your £170,000 commission.
2257 days ago
Today's bearcast is again recorded with a snoring Joshua but luckily my bad language did not wake him although it is still a bit distracting having an audience. On the agenda: Mosman Oil & Gas (MSMN), Amur Minerals (AMC), UK Oil & Gas (UKOG), Reach4Entertainment (R4E) - shares in which I own though I feel well abused for being so loyal - and finally Servision (SEV) where I told y'all but of course the Bulletin Board Morons knew better. They always do.
2260 days ago
Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has served up a trading statement which is, to use the technical term, nonsensical bollocks. But the shares are a very strong hold, at worst, at 1.95p.
2263 days ago
I start with why this bearcast is late. I got back very late from London where I was watching my daughter play Harold Wilson in Made in Dagenham and she was brilliant. So too was the musical. Well done Olaf although you are wrong about the gender pay gap! I look at the market bounce and the shit that is leading it. I look in real detail at the trading statement at Reach4Entertainment (R4E) where I am a shareholder, at Woodford dog RM2 (RM2) which is going on a one way trip to the vets in a fortnight and also at Woodford Patient Capital Trust (WPCT). Post bearcast it announced its NAV at 85.93p which means gearing must surely be through the 20% barrier. I also look at Optibiotix (OPTI) and the warrant exercise issue.
2274 days ago
I start with a look at the portfolios of those who are crowing as they have aced it for months. I have a warning for them. Then I look at my own portfolio, at the issue of short vs longer term performance at the individual stocks at risk reward and at why I am happy. Under discussion: Mark Slater, Neil Woodford, Optibiotix (OPTI), Reach4Entertainment (R4E), Falanx (FLX), Concepta (CPT), Big Sofa (BST), Premaitha (NIPT). I failed to mention Sosandar (SOS) but I am very happy there too. My HMD podcast I refer to is HERE
2326 days ago
Having noted on a potential Reach4Entertainment (R4E) placing last week that we understand that there has been strong demand at 1.5p per share and that we’re looking at £5 million at least being raised, the company has now announced a, conditional on General Meeting approval, £5.5 million placing at 1.5p…
2330 days ago
The publicity hungry, failing, fund manager Neil Woodford is all over the papers. On the markets he's right ( and bearish) but when discussing his own (failing) funds he is talking utter bollocks and I explain why. Brokerman Dan (Levi) has formed a shareholder action group on Ascent Resources (AST). I discuss his case against them and make a few suggestions to the company. I comment on R4E (R4E) on the disgraceful behaviour of Pathfinder Minerals (PFP), look at RM2 (RM2) and then finally at Sabien (SNT) which look either to be on the brink of a last gasp fundraise ( at a more than 99% discount to the IPO price) or of insolvency. In the same breath I mention Inspirit (INSP), another AIM boiler room dog that should be shot.
2330 days ago
I refer to my earlier piece on the evil language used by MySquar (MYSQ) to describe the state sponsored genocide in Myanmar. In light of that I accuse Eric Schaer, Piers Pottinger and their evil PR spinner Damian McCrystal of being holocaust deniers. As a bonus results out today show the clear fraud that occurred in July, throw up even more red flags, very dodgy accounting and demonstrate why this is a cash guzzling, worthless crock of shit. I also cover R4E (R4E), shares in which we own, and ITM Power (ITM).
2358 days ago
No I really want to be sick. The day started so well with Joshua, myself and more fit young mums making a paper image of Colin the Dog. But then I just got sick so hence the lack of content from me today. After this podcast goes up it is back to bed. On bear cast today a demolition of minus 99.5% lifestyle company Arian Silver (AGQ), 13 Energy (i3E), today's spoof from Magnolia (MAGP), a "fucked if I know" response from me on R4E (R4E) - a share we own - and a look at today's dire news from one of Jim Mellon's many AIM dogs FastForward (FFWD).
2374 days ago
Having previously warned of a potential breach of “monitoring covenants” in the third quarter, Reach4Entertainment (R4E) “has now determined that the quarterly monitoring covenants for the third quarter of this year have been breached and has notified PNC”. However…
2377 days ago
This has been a long time coming but there is now a new CEO at Reach4Entertainment (R4E), in Marc Boyan. At the same time Lord Michael Grade will step up to become Non Exec Chairman. But it is Boyan who matters…no offence Lord Grade...
2421 days ago
Seeing a 1:52pm “Trading Update” announcement didn’t inspire confidence and indeed the announcement from media and entertainment-focused Reach4Entertainment (R4E) includes “the directors anticipate that EBITDA for the 12 months to 31 December 2017 will be below market expectations”. HOWEVER…
2464 days ago
For months, shares in R4E (R4E) have been held back because it was in technical breach of the covenants on its bank debt. We never expected the bank to pull with Nigel Wray and Johnny Hon owning c50% of the equity and standing behind the firm. But some BB savants knew better...they always do.
2489 days ago
We had heard that there were boardroom, er discussions, underway at Reach4 Entertaiment (R4E) and thus it is no great sutprise to see that David Stoller is to step down as Executive Chairman and as a director as of September 30.
2641 days ago
Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has updated that it “expects to produce a trading performance slightly ahead of market expectations for the 12 months to 31 December 2016 at the EBITDA and profit before tax levels”, confirmed the appointments of two non-executive directors and added Finance Director, Linzi Allen, to the board.
2664 days ago
Reach (R4E) flagged up in its FY numbers in May that it would probably breach banking covenants. It argued this was a technical matter of no concern but the shares slumped. We urged you to buy then.
2723 days ago
In today's bearcast brought to you despite having a heavy cold, such is my dedication to you my listeners, I cover: Reach4Entertainment (R4E), Wishbone Gold (WSBN), writing to the FCA, T Clarke (CTO), Northern Petroleum (NOP), Andalas (ADL), Uru Metals (URU), Bilby (BILB) and Windar Photo (WPHO)
2728 days ago
In this podcast I look at the Hillary Clinton bombshell and what it means for the election and shares, something I cover in more detail HERE. Then I explain insider dealing and the difference between how I treated Reach4Entertainment (R4E) and Cyan (CYAN). Finally I suggest that heads must roll at Northland over the Management Resource Solutions (MRS) scandals.
2728 days ago
I am even more angry than I was on Monday. Those who have caused this are in no particular order: Reach4Entertainment (R4E), my selfish and lazy ex wife, Roger Lawson, Wishbone Gold (WSBN), Belfort Securities and whoever is responsible for the League Cup quarter final draw, I also cover in detail Avocet Mining (AVM), IGAS, Magnolia Petroloeum (MAGP) and XCite Energy (XEL)
2728 days ago
Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has announced a share placing raising £2 million pre expenses at 1.5p. I am utterly livid for reasons that I shall explain.
2738 days ago
For reasons that seem entirely related to illiquidity on AIM and nothing to do with fundamentals, shares in Reach4Entertainment (R4E) have ratted back to 1.25-1.4p. It is crackers.
2818 days ago
On Thursday I spent much of the day with MBN, the firm run by Nigel Wray's daughter with which we are now putting on UK Investor. More details regarding April 1 2017 soon but it is all pretty exciting. On friday I had a catch up chat with Nigel and in this podcast I look at three companies we chatted about: Guscio (GUSC), Reach4Entertainment (R4E) and a new one, Franchise Brands which was born from the ashes of Myhome. Hmmmm.
2879 days ago
New York and London theatre and entertainment media company, Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has announced results from a “milestone” 2015 and is now “confident that the company has a solid platform from which to progress in the coming years”.
2887 days ago
I start by putting one scouser straight on how things work in the real world. Then it is onto DDD Group, China Norfolk Aquatic Foods (AFG), Glenwick (GWIK), Sovereign Mines of Africa (SMA), Wishbone (WSBN), R4E (R4E) - go Dr Hon! - and Gulf Keystone (GKP).
2891 days ago
Shares in R4E (R4E) have raced ahead to 2,2-2.25p on news that Gate Ventures, the vehicle of controversial entrepreneur Johnny Hon has taken its holding up to 17%. No make that 18%, the TR1's come thick and fast.
2893 days ago
I start with more news on frigana cutting. I am a sweaty wreck after a day of mega slashing as I "take it out" on various folks in the City. Then I cover Asian Citrus (ACHL), Jiasen (JSI) and Taihua (TAIH) before I move onto Johnny Hon and R4E (R4E) then the scams and scum at Golden Saint Resources (GSR) - why won't PR fecking genius Steffi tell us about her shares? Then it is onto doomed Outsourcery (OUT) and then, as we expect more news tonight on Uramin, I ask a few questions about Port Erin (PEBI) another vehicle of my friend Jim Mellon. Oh and there is bad news for a company trying hard to bring jobs and wealth to the grim Northern welfare safaris, DX Group (DX). Moral of the story, let them rot, stick to doing business in the hard working South.
2895 days ago
Hong Kong based businessman Johnny Hon is a controversial chap. My interview with him at UK Investor covered the Gate Ventures AIM fiasco - as you can see HERE - but if he wants to build up a stake in a business he can buy a material stake - as we lucky shareholders have seen with R4E (R4E) - and now it appears that he has turned his attention to the MX Oil (MXO) pantomime.
2897 days ago
With Nigel Wray, aka Britain's Buffett, as its largest shareholder and we also having a decent though nowhere near disclosable , stake we take a keen interest in R4E (R4E) whose boss David Stoller flew in from New York to present at UK Investor show. Enjoy.
2909 days ago
In announcing that calendar 2015 results will be published on May 25, R4E (R4E) has issued a pleasing, if brief, trading statement. Chairman David Stoller is quoted as saying:
2950 days ago
I am a fan of Reach4Entertainment (R4E). We own the shares. I think they are cheap at 1.65p, they should be at least double that within two years as I explain HERE. But today it has announced a tiny deal which is just sordid (legal) tax avoidance. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Maybe I am becoming a bit of a Corbynista in my old age but I wonder how you feel?
2971 days ago
Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has updated that “trading has continued well in the last quarter of the year, with the expected seasonal uptick in revenues” and that it “therefore expects to report revenue, EBITDA and statutory profit before tax for the full year in line with market expectations”. Good news all round.
2989 days ago
It was announced this week that Gate Ventures, the totally dodgy company owned by Johnny Hon who is a total charlatan, has increased its stake in *Reach4Entertainment (R4E) by 5 million shares to 57.5 million shares - 12.12% of the equity. We think Hon is a total chancer - and that is being kind - but have noted before that him hoovering up loose stock will only accelerate the re-rating.
3011 days ago
One of the reasons I'm so happy we hold Reach4Entertainment (R4E) shares and in having this as a share tip (HERE) is the Hon Put which came into play today.
3033 days ago
There is no doubt that Reach4Entertainment (R4E) has been a total dog of an investment for many a year. But it goes into 2016 in great shape. We have bought shares in the market at 1.4p and 1.45p. I reckon the shares are going to 3.5-4.5p within two years and as such this is my 3rd tip of the year.
3045 days ago
This may seem like madness but we increased our holding in Reach4Entertainment (R4E) last week by 50% with another market purchase becuase, not despite of, the way that conman Johnny Hon of Gate Ventures (GATE) infamy has got involved.
3055 days ago
It has just been announced that Gate Ventures - the fraud booted off AIM after just four months earlier this year - has bought 14.5 million shares in Reach4Emtertainment (R4E) taking its stake to just above 3%. It could have been worse.
3068 days ago
Declaration of interest – David paid for lunch, a pleasant burger with a blue cheese topping and a glass of red wine. I happened to be in New York on Global Shorting Conspiracy business so popped into the relatively new Reach4Entertainment (R4E) offices in mid-town Manhattan to kill a couple of hours before heading to JFK.
3076 days ago
In today's podcast I start with my thoughts on the NHS. Guardian readers may wish to fast forward past that.Then it is onto assisting a twitter dickead (not David Lenigas) on Reach4Entertainment (R4E) and Nigel Wray. Then it is onto CDialogues (CDOG), blinkx (BLNX) and Havelock Europa (HVE). Finally a few more words on Gulf Keystone (GKP), Alba (ALBA) and Horse Hill.
3076 days ago
I am in Shipston with my father who has just won a premium bond. I discuss this ahead of spending it in the White Bear. Also how I deal with charities who call him. Then it is onto David Lenigas at the start with Lenigas Cuba (CUBA) and at the end with Rare Earth Minerals (REM). In between I look at Velox3 (VLOX), Juridica (JIL), Oilex (OEX), Phorm (PHRM), JQW (FRAUD), my anger at Reach4Entertainment (R4E), Paragon Diamonds (PRG) and I give Northern Petroleum (NOP) a well deserved kicking. Warning - this podcast contains strong language which some may find offensive. C'est la vie.
3076 days ago
Reach4Entertainment (R4E) announced on Friday the terms of a conditional, including on 2nd December General Meeting approval, placing and bank refinancing. We have this morning made a chunky (for us) investment in the shares (ie we bought in the market).
